Final Crisis 7

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JohnMayo wrote:The lack of solid announcements about the long term plans at DC is interesting. I agree that announcing a bunch of new titles without naming the creating teams is a bit crazy. I have to imagine that the lack of detailed information in some of these announcements is at least partially a matter of DC wanting to having things completely locked down before going public.
The FC spin-offs are coming out in May and those solicts come out next week. Although with DC's recent track record, that doesn't mean that the creative teams are locked down :)
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Wow...Superfluous Young Team, yep, that's not a book I would want to read about either. But the Super Young Team...told in a way that modernizes the whimsy and creativity of Kirby's original run with the Forever People? Yep, color me interested. And while I certainly understand that any spin offs out of Final Crisis may be hard sells for a lot of folks, I can speak directly to the fact that quite a few ARE excited. In fact, at the Saturday Podcast Dinner, about ten of us struck up a conversation about some of the news hitting the wires and Super Young Team was one of the ideas we were most curious, hopeful about.

I have to say that it's totally reasonable to dislike Final Crisis; you're not alone. But one thing I've always enjoyed about the show is that you don't fall into the cliche of prejudging things for the sake of it. I hope I'm misreading your response to this news and your jadedness has not consumed you John.
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Wood wrote:Wow...Superfluous Young Team, yep, that's not a book I would want to read about either. But the Super Young Team...told in a way that modernizes the whimsy and creativity of Kirby's original run with the Forever People? Yep, color me interested. And while I certainly understand that any spin offs out of Final Crisis may be hard sells for a lot of folks, I can speak directly to the fact that quite a few ARE excited. In fact, at the Saturday Podcast Dinner, about ten of us struck up a conversation about some of the news hitting the wires and Super Young Team was one of the ideas we were most curious, hopeful about.

I have to say that it's totally reasonable to dislike Final Crisis; you're not alone. But one thing I've always enjoyed about the show is that you don't fall into the cliche of prejudging things for the sake of it. I hope I'm misreading your response to this news and your jadedness has not consumed you John.
Based on my reading of Final Crisis, Super Young Team and the Forever People appear to be different groups. (Super Young Team was in the line up before Uotan said some magic word to summon the Forever People.)

I'm not saying people aren't excited by these announcements. I'm saying I'm puzzled as to why they are excited by them.

I'm not prejudging Super Young Team. I've read all of the appearances of them so far and I find them to be poorly developed and not deserving of a series as they were presented in Final Crisis. In that series, all we really know is that they are cosplayers with mainly cosmetic powers who are all about the celebrity aspect of being a "heroes" and not actual heroes. In Final Crisis, they were superfulous.

Could a great series be done with them? Certainly. And I hope they do something really cool with them. But, having no creative team announced with the title, the only thing the title has to sell me on it at the moment is the characters and the "concept" which seemed a bit vague.

I'm very curious about the title. I think that a series based on the monster fighting heroes in Japan could be a blast to read. However, I'm not getting the sense from the minimal information I've read about Final Crisis Aftermath: Dance to make me think that is what the series would be about.

I'm not prejuding the book. I'm merely noting that DC is not doing a great job getting me (and apparently a few others) excited about these titles. Perhaps they did a better sales job in person at the New York ComicCon.
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Wood wrote: I have to say that it's totally reasonable to dislike Final Crisis; you're not alone. But one thing I've always enjoyed about the show is that you don't fall into the cliche of prejudging things for the sake of it. I hope I'm misreading your response to this news and your jadedness has not consumed you John.
I'm not going to prejudge either for or against a new title.

That being said, I will judge (not pre-judge) based on the information as it comes to me. The information I have seen on all the FC spin-offs is extremely weak and has done nothing to excite me yet.

That being said, maybe new information will come out over the next few months that will get me excited enough to consider buying the books.

HOWEVER......everyone who does not buy every single book published pre-judges on a regular basis (if to pre-judge means to make a decision based on promotional materials & descriptions without having read the entire actual book). We all do that when we make a decision to buy a book or not. Even at my height of buying (which I am no longer at) I did not buy everything, and decided to get something or not based on probably incomplete material. THAT being said, it is the job of the publisher to give me enough info to get me excited enough about a book to buy it. DC is going to have a ways to go to accomplish that feat on these books. In general, I am not too enthused about these "one-word" conceptual titles. Those do nothing at all for me, but put Johns or Robinson on as a writer and I may reconsider that. I'm just saying that having a weak initial marketing (when I first hear of something) just means they have some catch-up to do now to overcome my initial ambivalence.
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