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I continue to have a bad feeling about this. This event is about 9 to 10 months long (if you include the Avengers X-Sanction) and unless there is a major twist with issue 0 or 1, this event is going to get old very fast, with all the crossovers and covers that basically have Avengers vs X-Men.

HassanT wrote:I continue to have a bad feeling about this. This event is about 9 to 10 months long (if you include the Avengers X-Sanction) and unless there is a major twist with issue 0 or 1, this event is going to get old very fast, with all the crossovers and covers that basically have Avengers vs X-Men.

I think they are targeting this at a certain demographic of comic reader (which I'm not in).

Best example is the series "AVX Vs." which appears to just be a big fight between 2 characters in each issue. 20 years ago I would have eaten that up. Now I'm completely uninterested, more of a "been there, done that" feeling.

BobBretall wrote:

HassanT wrote:I continue to have a bad feeling about this. This event is about 9 to 10 months long (if you include the Avengers X-Sanction) and unless there is a major twist with issue 0 or 1, this event is going to get old very fast, with all the crossovers and covers that basically have Avengers vs X-Men.

I think they are targeting this at a certain demographic of comic reader (which I'm not in).

Consider me not part of the demographic that they are targeting, as well.

I'm skipping this event all-together.

iFanboy has some previews of Avengers Vs. X-Men No. 1:
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I'm intrigued. I was already going to buy the entire event, but I'd decided to use this as an opportunity to jump to trades on any X-Men books that are involved in the AvX 'event'. These teaser pages actually have me rethinking that decision - I might like to get this monthly. I like how with just those seven pages the issue is now more sophisticated than it was portrayed in the press releases and whatnot.

I also like how Hope is rendered as a relatively young girl. I'm not sure how old she's supposed to be, but in Generation Hope she seems to be about 22 at a minimum.

boshuda wrote: I like how with just those seven pages the issue is now more sophisticated than it was portrayed in the press releases and whatnot.

I didn't come away with that feeling. I got from those 7 pages that it's a setup for exactly what I was expecting, a mindless super-hero slug-fest with some ribbons & flare wrapped around it to make it seem like more than that.

"We should be clear though, it's a suicide mission..."

Really?

Does anyone believe this? Anyone?

Sure it SHOULD be a suicide mission. The Phoenix force once snuffed out billions of people and a whole world in an instant. Those Avengers should be vaporized the second the Phoenix force takes notice of them. But that wouldn't make much of a story, so they won't be.

I would have absolutely loved this story 20 years ago....... Now it just makes me weary. A good indication that I should just walk away. And I will.

PS: I don't mean to rain on anyone's parade. The above rant is my own personal feelings helping me stay strong in my decision to not buy the 50+ comics that will be pimped out in relation to this "event".

For people who enjoy this, I am happy, it falls into "read what you like".

I'll step away from this thread now so I'm not a continual ray of gloom.....

I'm still conflicted. On one hand, the actual story of the Phoenix coming back and affecting Hope is something I want to read. I just got into the X-books and I like Generation Hope a lot, so I want to read more about that.

On the other other hand, the idea of all these heroes fighting each other instead of being intelligent and talking about it really bothers me. A lot of these heroes are supposed to be intelligent .... they can't have a quick meeting to discuss their different views? They have to resort to fighting to get their way? Isn't that what a villain does?

And 12 issues is a LOT. It reminds me of Maximum Carnage which was a disaster. I think I will pass on this and just pick up what's going on with the story in the X-books, although by the covers it seems I'll have to read about a fight. A fight longer than a few panels in a comic is boring to me. It's like reading 2 pages of a sword fight in a novel .... just tell me who wins.

abysslord wrote:the idea of all these heroes fighting each other instead of being intelligent and talking about it really bothers me. A lot of these heroes are supposed to be intelligent .... they can't have a quick meeting to discuss their different views? They have to resort to fighting to get their way? Isn't that what a villain does?.

The problem is there aren't any villains left. They're all "anti-heroes" now.

Not a part of the targeted group. My feeling is Marvel (Disney) is trying to bring over the X-Men movie audience to the Avengers movie audience this summer. The comic collector (and reader) is no longer the target audience, there are far more dollars to be made from a good comicbook movie franchise (Star Wars, Spider-Man, X-Men etc)

boshuda wrote:iFanboy has some previews of Avengers Vs. X-Men No. 1:
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Wow.... I'm normally a fan of Jr Jr's, but that looks like a weak Coipel.

certainly not art begetting such a "high profile" story thats meant to help Marvel get back on top.

Currently I believe before Watchmen will sell better than this.

abysslord wrote:On the other other hand, the idea of all these heroes fighting each other instead of being intelligent and talking about it really bothers me. A lot of these heroes are supposed to be intelligent .... they can't have a quick meeting to discuss their different views?

Wasn't that part of what people complained about with Star Wars Episode I (or at least what a lot of the jokes revolved around)? Too much political junk, not enough action?

"We are going to spend this issue sitting at our big table and list the pros and cons of the Phoenix force being allowed to inhabit Hope."

(Sorry, couldn't help it. Please don't read the above seriously, I'm saying all this in jest. I know you didn't mean this.)

Danscomics wrote:

abysslord wrote:On the other other hand, the idea of all these heroes fighting each other instead of being intelligent and talking about it really bothers me. A lot of these heroes are supposed to be intelligent .... they can't have a quick meeting to discuss their different views?

Wasn't that part of what people complained about with Star Wars Episode I (or at least what a lot of the jokes revolved around)? Too much political junk, not enough action?

"We are going to spend this issue sitting at our big table and list the pros and cons of the Phoenix force being allowed to inhabit Hope."

(Sorry, couldn't help it. Please don't read the above seriously, I'm saying all this in jest. I know you didn't mean this.)

Don't worry, I don't take anything personally on message boards

But you're right. That is what a lot of people said about Episode I but I thought it was great. It wasn't until Episode II that you really see how complex the plot is from Palpatine's point of view and how he managed to get control of the entire republic legally.

But I agree most people don't want to read that in a superhero book so that's why I think this event shouldn't have happened at all, or maybe just contained in the X-books. It really is an example of $$$$ creating a story instead of the other way around. Then again, that's how a lot of movies are made today too. Sequels are produced before a script is written.