Worst of the Worst 2008
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Worst of the Worst 2008
The purpose of this thread is for listeners (and John & I) to keep track of our least favorite things in comics as we read them throughout the year. This will save us from having to go back and re-think about everything when we're trying to put together the "worst" part of the "year-in-review 2008" next January.
- Please nothing personal against the creators as individuals. This is just your personal opinion on examples of work.
Feel free to post, and just edit your original if you change your mind as new stuff comes out.
WORST
DC:
Writing - your choice
Art - your choice
Character/Team - your choice
Storyline/Title - your choice
Marvel:
Writing - your choice
Art - your choice
Character/Team - your choice
Storyline/Title - your choice
Indie:
Writing - your choice
Art - your choice
Character/Team - your choice
Storyline/Title - your choice
- Please nothing personal against the creators as individuals. This is just your personal opinion on examples of work.
Feel free to post, and just edit your original if you change your mind as new stuff comes out.
WORST
DC:
Writing - your choice
Art - your choice
Character/Team - your choice
Storyline/Title - your choice
Marvel:
Writing - your choice
Art - your choice
Character/Team - your choice
Storyline/Title - your choice
Indie:
Writing - your choice
Art - your choice
Character/Team - your choice
Storyline/Title - your choice
Last edited by BobBretall on Sat Jan 03, 2009 2:38 pm, edited 3 times in total.
Here is what I've got so far:
WORST
DC:
Writing - 1st place: Countdown to Mystery #8: Dr Fate story
2nd place: Countdown (this has been a major disappointment)
Art - undecided
Title/Character - undecided
Marvel:
Writing - undecided
Art - undecided
Title/Character - undecided
Indie:
Writing - undecided
Art - undecided
Title/Character - undecided
I'll fill these in as I catch up on my reading...
WORST
DC:
Writing - 1st place: Countdown to Mystery #8: Dr Fate story
2nd place: Countdown (this has been a major disappointment)
Art - undecided
Title/Character - undecided
Marvel:
Writing - undecided
Art - undecided
Title/Character - undecided
Indie:
Writing - undecided
Art - undecided
Title/Character - undecided
I'll fill these in as I catch up on my reading...
Last edited by JohnMayo on Tue Jun 03, 2008 1:08 pm, edited 2 times in total.
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*EDITED* My final thoughts for 2008:
WORST
DC:
Writing - Frank Miller - All Star Batman & Robin
Note: Thanks to Mike for reminding me about this title. While the art is superb, the writing makes me cringe. Let's see if someone can "best" FM at being "worst" between now & the end of the year.
Writing - Dishonorable mention- Grant Morrison - Final Crisis & Batman
Note: A lot of people love Morrison's writing, I find it to be an acquired taste that I have not acquired. Not a good choice for putting on major events and major characters.
Art - Damion Scott - DC Special: Raven
Character/Team - N/A
Note: Not really any character that screamed out "bad". Bad writing, but no bad characters/teams that I read.
Storyline/Title - Countdown
Marvel:
Writing - Daniel Way
Note: Thanks to Damian for reminding me about Ghost Rider being ret-conned into an "angel"
Art - Tan Eng Huat
Note: Did Silver Surfer: In Thy Name & Ghost Rider
Character/Team - Sentry
Note: Wow! Talk about a character that has NEVER lived up to his potential. Power of a million exploding suns, indeed.
Storyline/Title - Silver Surfer: In Thy Name
Note: Aimless rambling story, terrible art, this one had it all!
Indie:
Writing - Wingman (Arcana)
Art - Wingman (Arcana)
Character/Team - tbd
Storyline/Title - Megan Rose Gedris: I was kidnapped by Lesbian Pirates from Outer Space!!!
WORST
DC:
Writing - Frank Miller - All Star Batman & Robin
Note: Thanks to Mike for reminding me about this title. While the art is superb, the writing makes me cringe. Let's see if someone can "best" FM at being "worst" between now & the end of the year.
Writing - Dishonorable mention- Grant Morrison - Final Crisis & Batman
Note: A lot of people love Morrison's writing, I find it to be an acquired taste that I have not acquired. Not a good choice for putting on major events and major characters.
Art - Damion Scott - DC Special: Raven
Character/Team - N/A
Note: Not really any character that screamed out "bad". Bad writing, but no bad characters/teams that I read.
Storyline/Title - Countdown
Marvel:
Writing - Daniel Way
Note: Thanks to Damian for reminding me about Ghost Rider being ret-conned into an "angel"
Art - Tan Eng Huat
Note: Did Silver Surfer: In Thy Name & Ghost Rider
Character/Team - Sentry
Note: Wow! Talk about a character that has NEVER lived up to his potential. Power of a million exploding suns, indeed.
Storyline/Title - Silver Surfer: In Thy Name
Note: Aimless rambling story, terrible art, this one had it all!
Indie:
Writing - Wingman (Arcana)
Art - Wingman (Arcana)
Character/Team - tbd
Storyline/Title - Megan Rose Gedris: I was kidnapped by Lesbian Pirates from Outer Space!!!
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If you saw his work the way I did you would understand he is the Uwe Boll of comic books.johnmayo wrote:Geez. You real hate this tbd fellow...Skyhawke wrote:WORST
DC:
Writing - tbd
Art - tbd
Character/Team - tbd
Storyline/Title - tbd
Marvel:
Writing - tbd
Art - tbd
Character/Team - tbd
Storyline/Title - tbd
Indie:
Writing - tbd
Art - tbd
Character/Team - tbd
Storyline/Title - tbd![]()

So true, so true...Skyhawke wrote:If you saw his work the way I did you would understand he is the Uwe Boll of comic books.johnmayo wrote:Geez. You real hate this tbd fellow...Skyhawke wrote:WORST
DC:
Writing - tbd
Art - tbd
Character/Team - tbd
Storyline/Title - tbd
Marvel:
Writing - tbd
Art - tbd
Character/Team - tbd
Storyline/Title - tbd
Indie:
Writing - tbd
Art - tbd
Character/Team - tbd
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WORST
DC:
Writing - Frank Miller
Art - TBD
Character/Team - TBD
Storyline/Title - All Star Batman & Robin
Marvel:
Writing - Jeph Loeb
Art - TBD
Character/Team - TBD
Storyline/Title - World War Hulk
Indie:
Writing - TBD
Art - TBD
Character/Team - TBD
Storyline/Title - TBD
DC:
Writing - Frank Miller
Art - TBD
Character/Team - TBD
Storyline/Title - All Star Batman & Robin
Marvel:
Writing - Jeph Loeb
Art - TBD
Character/Team - TBD
Storyline/Title - World War Hulk
Indie:
Writing - TBD
Art - TBD
Character/Team - TBD
Storyline/Title - TBD
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I really, really hate making "Worst of" lists, but this year there have been a few nominations so far:
WORST
DC:
Writing - Paul Dini
Art - your choice
Character/Team - your choice
Storyline/Title - Countdown. Which makes me sad as I was such a staunch supporter of the series, but the end was such a trainwreck.
Marvel:
Writing - Jeph Loeb
Art - your choice
Character/Team - your choice
Storyline/Title - Hulk
Indie:
Writing - your choice
Art - your choice
Character/Team - your choice
Storyline/Title - your choice
WORST
DC:
Writing - Paul Dini
Art - your choice
Character/Team - your choice
Storyline/Title - Countdown. Which makes me sad as I was such a staunch supporter of the series, but the end was such a trainwreck.
Marvel:
Writing - Jeph Loeb
Art - your choice
Character/Team - your choice
Storyline/Title - Hulk
Indie:
Writing - your choice
Art - your choice
Character/Team - your choice
Storyline/Title - your choice
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WORST
DC:
Writing - The Countdown team
Art - undecided
Character/Team - undecided
Storyline/Title - Countdown
Marvel:
Writing - Jeph Loeb on Ultimates 3 and Hulk
Art - undecided
Character/Team - undecided
Storyline/Title - undecided
Indie:
Writing - undecided
Art - undecided
Character/Team - undecided
Storyline/Title - undecided
DC:
Writing - The Countdown team
Art - undecided
Character/Team - undecided
Storyline/Title - Countdown
Marvel:
Writing - Jeph Loeb on Ultimates 3 and Hulk
Art - undecided
Character/Team - undecided
Storyline/Title - undecided
Indie:
Writing - undecided
Art - undecided
Character/Team - undecided
Storyline/Title - undecided
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Mr. Loeb
Looks like we're already starting to see some trends. Particularly against in terms of the writing for Mr. Loeb.
Perhaps this is another case of television writers who look at comic books as a "past time" rather than their true vocation. I included him on my list due to ALL of his Marvel work. His performance on Wolverine was particularly lacklustre.
I harken back to when his writing on Batman/Superman made it to my top 3 favorites list. Those first dozen or so issues were great.
Perhaps this is another case of television writers who look at comic books as a "past time" rather than their true vocation. I included him on my list due to ALL of his Marvel work. His performance on Wolverine was particularly lacklustre.
I harken back to when his writing on Batman/Superman made it to my top 3 favorites list. Those first dozen or so issues were great.
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WORST
DC:
Writing - Countdown
Art - Countdown
Character/Team - Green Lantern
Storyline/Title - Countdown
Marvel:
Writing - Jeph Loeb (Ults is bad!)
Art - Howard Chaykin (Punisher War Journal/War is Hell)
Character/Team -
Storyline/Title - Avenger/Invaders
Indie:
Writing -
Art -
Character/Team - Spawn (I read this for 177 issues and I just couldn't do i anymore.)
Storyline/Title -
DC:
Writing - Countdown
Art - Countdown
Character/Team - Green Lantern
Storyline/Title - Countdown
Marvel:
Writing - Jeph Loeb (Ults is bad!)
Art - Howard Chaykin (Punisher War Journal/War is Hell)
Character/Team -
Storyline/Title - Avenger/Invaders
Indie:
Writing -
Art -
Character/Team - Spawn (I read this for 177 issues and I just couldn't do i anymore.)
Storyline/Title -
DC:
Writing - (tie) Frank Miller/Grant Morrison
Art - none yet
Character/Team - All Star Batman
Storyline/Title - Final crisis
Marvel:
Writing - Jeph Loeb (Hulk)
Art - none yet
Character/Team - Boomer
Storyline/Title - Marvel Apes
Indie:
Writing - none yet
Art - Luna Brothers
Character/Team - none yet
Storyline/Title - Sword
Writing - (tie) Frank Miller/Grant Morrison
Art - none yet
Character/Team - All Star Batman
Storyline/Title - Final crisis
Marvel:
Writing - Jeph Loeb (Hulk)
Art - none yet
Character/Team - Boomer
Storyline/Title - Marvel Apes
Indie:
Writing - none yet
Art - Luna Brothers
Character/Team - none yet
Storyline/Title - Sword