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HassanT wrote: I meant the trade of the original series that is coming out this summer.
Yes, I knew you meant the trade of the original series.
HassanT wrote: Are you a fan of the original series?
Yes. But I have not read the new one yet.

My point is, if you are "meh" on the new one and people who read both say the new one is just like the original, you probably want to skip the original.

If people who read both say the new one is a pale reflection of the original, it will be an indicator that you may want to check out the original.

You''ll find out what John & I think of Night Force #1 on March 19th.
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BobBretall wrote:
HassanT wrote: I meant the trade of the original series that is coming out this summer.
Yes, I knew you meant the trade of the original series.
HassanT wrote: Are you a fan of the original series?
Yes. But I have not read the new one yet.

My point is, if you are "meh" on the new one and people who read both say the new one is just like the original, you probably want to skip the original.

If people who read both say the new one is a pale reflection of the original, it will be an indicator that you may want to check out the original.

You''ll find out what John & I think of Night Force #1 on March 19th.
Ok. I understand.
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Batman Beyond Unlimited #1 - This was very well done. Evocative of the animated series. I liked the Justice League Beyond backup story also.
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BobBretall wrote:Batman Beyond Unlimited #1 - This was very well done. Evocative of the animated series. I liked the Justice League Beyond backup story also.
I liked the book, but as a first issue I thought it could have been more new reader friendly. I am not a new reader so I had no problem keeping up, but I wondered how much of the first story would make sense for people who did not read the last series.
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spid wrote: I liked the book, but as a first issue I thought it could have been more new reader friendly. I am not a new reader so I had no problem keeping up, but I wondered how much of the first story would make sense for people who did not read the last series.
I didn't read the last series, but have seen the cartoon show.

I had no problem following the gist of the story. People who have never seen the cartoon may have a problem, but I'd guess people who've never seen the cartoon wouldn't tend to buy this.
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BobBretall wrote:Batman Beyond Unlimited #1 - This was very well done. Evocative of the animated series. I liked the Justice League Beyond backup story also.
I have been reading the digital chapters on my iPad. First series that I have decided to buy exclusively digital. I really enjoyed the first few chapters. I thought it was easy to get into and understand (and I am not a big follower of the Beyond characters).
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BobBretall wrote: My point is, if you are "meh" on the new one and people who read both say the new one is just like the original, you probably want to skip the original.

If people who read both say the new one is a pale reflection of the original, it will be an indicator that you may want to check out the original.
I think you may be out of luck on getting something different from the trade of the original if you don't care much for the new Night Force #1.

I found the new series to be very evocative of the original series, or at least tracking with my pleasant memories of the original as it's been about 30 years since I read the original.

I'd like to hear the opinion of others who have read both, though.
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Saga #1 (Image) - Pretty much a perfect first issue as far as the story. You have a narrator, which helps ground you and lets the writer give you background information quickly and easily. You get to know the main characters pretty quickly, you get the basic plot, and then you get a glimpse at the scale of this story and some of the weird things that exist in it. The last page was especially cool.

The art style is pretty good. I didn't like the opening page but some of the rest of the pages looked really good.

I've only read the beginning of Y: The Last Man so I'm still a newcomer to Vaughn but I love what I've read so far.
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Avengers Assemble #1 - This book had a couple of obstacles when it came to pleasing me as a reader. 1) I really don't want to read another Avengers book. 2) I'm not a fan of Mark Bagley's artwork. The story had to grab me and this just didn't. I am a fan of Bendis on the Avengers for the most part, but I have felt for a while that it's time for him to step down, never mind adding another title. Avengers and New Avengers are still fun, but not terribly inspired. I mean, more Norman Osborn and Dark Avengers? Ugh. Anyway, Assemble was typical in that not a lot happened and it read quickly. And I won't spoil anything, but the Hulk's characterization really bothered me. Bagley was Bagley... functional but his work doesn't excite me. I'm still not crazy about how he draws adults. I won't red light this book because for a new reader I think it's a solid jump-on point, and there's nothing really wrong with the story if you haven't read a lot of Avengers in the past, but for me it just didn't work. With all of that said, I do wonder if a new reader, especially someone new to comics, would be satisfied with the amount of story this contained for $4. I did pre-order #2 but I already took #3 off my new order.

Batman Beyond Unlimited #1 - I loved this. I actually haven't seen a lot of the cartoon, but I read the mini series and previous ongoing and really enjoyed both. The one negative for me with those books was the art, but with one of my favorite current artists, Dustin Nguyen, and one of my favorite artists from my early days as a reader, Norm Breyfogle (great to see him again!) on art, this book looked spectacular. And great cliffhangers at the end of both stories.

Saga #1 - I can't say I enjoyed this as much as other people, but I did like it quite a bit. Great dialogue and engaging characters. The story had a fun vibe while still being very dark. The art is going to have to grow on me a bit, but I didn't dislike it by any means. This didn't grab me like Y The Last Man, but those are very difficult standards for any book to live up to.
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stardog wrote:
Saga #1 - I can't say I enjoyed this as much as other people, but I did like it quite a bit. Great dialogue and engaging characters. The story had a fun vibe while still being very dark. The art is going to have to grow on me a bit, but I didn't dislike it by any means. This didn't grab me like Y The Last Man, but those are very difficult standards for any book to live up to.
I am in the same boat. I thought it was good, but not great. The art was rough in places especially the coloring toward the end.
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Dominique Laveau: Voodoo Child #1 (DC/Vertigo) - I really liked the few preview pages for this book in the Vertigo sampler, apparently they were pulled from the middle of the 1st issue. Taken as a whole, this really didn't resonate with me, I don't think I'm the target audience, though.

GFT: The Jungle Book#1 (Zenescope) - This was kind of a muddle. Basic concept is cool, 4 kids get raised by different animal clans from Kipling's Jungle Book, and I recognized various names dropped around. That said, the story momentum was poor, too little happened in this issue to get me hooked.

Rebel Blood #1 (Image) - Really cool horror vibe that meshes really nicely with Riley Rossmo's art.

Rocketeer Adventures v2 #1 (IDW) - The 1st story by Marc Guggenheim & Sandy Plunkett was OK, but a bit preachy for my tastes. I actively disliked "The Ducketeer" by Peter David & Bill Sienkevich, I really wish I'd have just skipped reading it. 3rd story by Stan Sakai, a creator I love who is an absolute mismatch for The Rocketeer. In general, I personally like Rocketeer stories that "feel like" Rocketeer stories. None of these did. I'll get the other issues, hopefully the creators in the next issue do a better job of capturing the feel I like to read.

Stan Lee's Mighty 7#1 (Archie) - I think it's time for Stan to retire.

Super Crooks #1 (Marvel/Icon) - Standard Millar story, I don't need to read this again, he needs to come up with some different story beats to hit. For people who can't get enough of Millar's standard fare, check this out, it's more of what he does best. I felt like it was a story I've read before.
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BobBretall wrote:
Rebel Blood #1 (Image) - Really cool horror vibe that meshes really nicely with Riley Rossmo's art.
Did you follow the story well though? I couldn't tell what was a flashback, or what happened on the roof for sure, or what timeline we were in ...etc. Really poor writing unless I really missed something, but I liked the art and style. Since it's only 4 issues and apparently the ending is great, I'll keep reading.
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abysslord wrote:
BobBretall wrote:
Rebel Blood #1 (Image) - Really cool horror vibe that meshes really nicely with Riley Rossmo's art.
Did you follow the story well though? I couldn't tell what was a flashback, or what happened on the roof for sure, or what timeline we were in ...etc. Really poor writing unless I really missed something, but I liked the art and style. Since it's only 4 issues and apparently the ending is great, I'll keep reading.
I followed it fine. There were a lot of time shifts, the 1st main one was captioned (on page 6) and others had kind of a greenish cast to the art.

I think he went for a stylistic choice that was not crystal clear linear story-telling, which always has a danger of alienating people, particularly when coupled with a "loose" art style like Rossmo's.
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stardog wrote: Saga #1 - I can't say I enjoyed this as much as other people, but I did like it quite a bit. Great dialogue and engaging characters. The story had a fun vibe while still being very dark. The art is going to have to grow on me a bit, but I didn't dislike it by any means. This didn't grab me like Y The Last Man, but those are very difficult standards for any book to live up to.
Wow, read Saga #1 last night and it was a strange one but I liked it. And a double size 44-page no ads $2.99 first issue at that, take that Marvel. I didn't like the design of the robot villains but that's minor to an overall good comic book. I'm looking forward to reading the rest of the series.

Saucer Country #1 (Vertigo) - This is an intriguing first issue from Vertigo. It opened up a lot of different story lines that will be interesting to see how they handle. It's "X-Files meets West Wing" in a comic book, and I'm in. This 20 page first issue felt so short after reading Saga #1. I could've used a little more story here but it was enough to bring me back for the next issue.
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IanG wrote: Saucer Country #1 (Vertigo) - This is an intriguing first issue from Vertigo. It opened up a lot of different story lines that will be interesting to see how they handle. It's "X-Files meets West Wing" in a comic book, and I'm in. This 20 page first issue felt so short after reading Saga #1. I could've used a little more story here but it was enough to bring me back for the next issue.
I agree, I liked it enough to keep reading.

New Deadwardians #1 (Vertigo) - Pretty interesting concept and a good first issue. I think the next few will have to keep me intrigued or else I'll probably drop it just because I'm starting to be more selective.
BobBretall wrote:Dominique Laveau: Voodoo Child #1 (DC/Vertigo) - I really liked the few preview pages for this book in the Vertigo sampler, apparently they were pulled from the middle of the 1st issue. Taken as a whole, this really didn't resonate with me, I don't think I'm the target audience, though.
I'd give this one a red. I couldn't even finish it. The first few pages were terribly written imo. She's running from a monster and afraid for her life, yet she's talking to herself and trying to rationalize why running away from her friends was the right thing to do .... or something like that. That was a disconnect and the rest was just disjointed.

Danger Club #1 (Image) - Really cool first issue with a simple story, but told well and the art was nice. I'm very curious to see where this is going.

Waking: Dreams End #1 (Zenescope) - This was fantastic. The first volume of Waking was pretty good and setup a great idea for zombies that I thought was pretty original in a genre that is saturated. This #1 shows how even with that setup [which I won't give away from the first volume] there can still be problems. The only negative was the art or coloring was a little .... off. I can't really say what it was but something made it seem just a little flat.
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